So the question is, will that be clearly mapped out far enough in advance so that Conoco can advance in 2014, or Shell can advance in 2014?

I worked with Secretary Salazar on the agreement involving the King Cove road reflected in the Secretary's memorandum of March 21.

Our Governor Parnell sent a letter to you on April 28 refusing to pay back the funds, citing the lack of any legal authority offered by the USFS.

It's almost as though we're watching 'Groundhog Day' all over again.

I had mentioned the Anan Creek facility.

I believe that this situation teaches a larger lesson about the failures of the agency's current forest management policy.

You have got to find a different path here that does not punish these struggling rural communities for the agency's failure to manage our Nation's forests.

I think sometimes the script changes a little bit.

I think that this decision by the agency represents the latest in a long line of misguided Forest Service actions that have had a crippling impact on Southeast Alaska.

It just doesn't work.

I don't think is a good option either. So again, we need to figure out how, you need to figure out, working with us, how we deal with this.

I want to be clear. I do support the agency's many programs that deal with recreation and with wildlife.

I would certainly hope that at a bare minimum there is no effort to collect late fees and penalties.

I think that oversight role is important. And I worry that we might lose some aspect of that oversight with this expansion that we're talking about.

I worry that we don't have our operators who are able to hold on until we can transition to that second growth.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Just very briefly.

If the State of Alaska and Alabama and Wyoming refuse to pay, as the Governor's letter certainly suggests, I mean, what do you do?

When you live in a place like Ketchikan that is on the water, you've got a lot of floatplanes.