I think one of the worst things that happened in the COVID era is that our own government deliberately withheld information from us.

It is wrong to censor and lie to the American public.

As a scientist who is supposed to follow facts, do you regret the fact that your 'work' was used to censor your fellow scientists?

The propaganda involved in the origins of COVID-19 is astounding to me.

I am not going to get so excited about where COVID happened to come from. What I know is that something very dangerous could come from Gain-of-Function research if it's not properly regulated.

We should not be financing Gain-of-Function research.

You should have done better, sir. You should have done better. Because you didn't, people have suffered.

But arguing against that is they tested 90,000-some-odd animals, and there is no animal host that's been found.

We want you to doctor it up and even be more strong, because we are making a political point here.

The ones that have been vocal about this and talked a lot about have been the DOE, which has more scientists than any other agency in Washington, probably other than NIH. They have concluded that it did come from the lab.

We should never ever listen to people like that.

There's a lot of evidence that people within the intel agencies actually do believe that there is evidence that it came from the lab.

This is not a partisan thing.

But arguing against that is they tested 90,000-some-odd animals, and there is no animal host that's been found.

This virus showed up immediately, very transmissible in humans as if it had been preadapted in a lab.

The ones that have been vocal about this and talked a lot about have been the DOE, which has more scientists than any other agency in Washington, probably other than NIH. They have concluded that it did come from the lab.

This is not scientific debate that they're taking us off the Internet.

We want you to doctor it up and even be more strong, because we are making a political point here.