I am humbled by the fact that for 60 years, people smarter than I am, more experienced than I am from both the political parties and all political persuasions, have tried to get these programs right with good intentions.

That is an excellent suggestion. We are going to try and put this together.

Thank you very much, Brian. I mean what I said. You and Amber can come out and testify, and you can show the members of the committee how to mix the stuff.

We are going to need a lot of you all. Before it is all over, I am hoping that around the country there are going to be a lot of huge gatherings in a lot of States putting pressure on all reps, all Senators, Democrats, Republicans, and…

the future of agriculture is not a Republican issue. It is not a matter of right versus left. It is really right versus wrong.

The FAA would step in. The President would declare a state of--it would be totally untenable.

Why should shippers in the United States in a sense be at a disadvantage to shippers in Canada with regard to bottleneck prices?

What justification can CSX or other railroads in the U.S. give for a pricing system that would be illegal in any other industry in this country?

Well, let me just say two things.

But I do not think we should be subject to two regulatory regimes, to two masters. One master is enough.

You can operate under rules that would be illegal for any other industry in this country to do.

I really question the basic proposition that railroad rates or conduct in any way, including mergers, would be found invalid under the antitrust laws.

Getting the choice is important to chemical companies, steel companies, coal companies, granaries, et cetera.

If they do not?

Let me just simplify it to North America. Why is it that you should be able to operate under exemptions and an antitrust situation would be illegal in any other industry?

We are, right.

It is because you have behind that the threat of the choice.

What would be a way that you might-- not hypothetically, but just thinking back in your experience when you say enhanced competition or I would say pro-competitive evidence--and we have agreed it is sort of the same. What would be an…