At some point I would appreciate it if your staff could show me whether the funds that were allocated are still going to fund the same activities with regard to drug elimination activities and security and public housing authorities.

Thank you. And TANF reauthorization and the family self-sufficiency program?

I continue to be very troubled by the on-the-ground information that I get feedback on from some of the public housing authorities in New Jersey.

As I suggested the last time, I would love to take you up to New Jersey and visit some of these public housings and we can go to Cumberland County at the same time.

I would certainly encourage you to come to Cumberland County with me and you would see where those grants have been very effectively used and brought new jobs.

I consider zeroing-out the Public Housing Drug Elimination Program, a program aimed at improving the safety at public housing developments, particularly troublesome.

What we have done is change the rules...so that people are actually materially better off going to work.

What if it does not work?

We have been doing this experiment now for a couple of years.

Historically it has been funded out of CDBG, but as I understand it, it would be funded under your budget proposal, out of the capital funds, which would mean the $417 million reduction would be more like $472 million.

I am intrigued by the notion, and I am a person who likes to figure out what works to solve our problems and not be doctrinaire about it.

I would be doing better if this mike would stay put.

I think one of the reasons why welfare reform has been, by most people's judgment, a terrific success--not for everybody, but for most people--is that case rolls are down by half, and people who have gone to work are better off.

My concern, and I appreciate what you just said, is hopefully it will work.

The idea that people would move into public housing and stay there forever was not what the original intent was.

Ohio is fortunate to have a high-quality bioterrorism preparedness training program at the University of Findlay.

As a member of the Senate Appropriations Committee, I worked to ensure that the University of Findlay's antiterrorism program received careful attention during the appropriations process.

Ohio is fortunate to have a high-quality bioterrorism preparedness training program at the University of Findlay.