David Thomas

I want to say, however, in closing, that I think we have made some real progress in the last couple years in the industry, in the private sector. And even though I think there are some problems that we will have to deal with as we go about…

I want to compliment him as I want to compliment the chairmen of the other committees... The major committees in the House, not just one committee, the major committees of responsibility have come together and we have produced H.R. 3103.

Does the Senator recognize that under this bill the rate goes up 40 percent, under the bill as Senator Domenici presents it?

I guess I am sorry the Senator has suggested anyone who does not agree with him is a victim of contributions. I think that is not a very appropriate remark.

I have to say to the Senator that I am not certain. This was designed with the assistance and involvement of the administration to support some of the things they are doing, certainly to rededicate ourselves to the commitments that we have…

The items that the gentleman is ticking off on his finger have no relationship to the information to be collected in this data bank, or any other data bank.

What about the October 2, 1995, letter Senator Sarbanes made reference to yesterday? Is it the special committee's intention to move forward without regard to the independent counsel's investigation?

This motion to recommit has 229 pages. What he did not tell you that is in those 229 pages was that we just voted on a measure for $3.5 billion, almost 100 Members of the House said no, it is in there. There are a number of other items…

I go back to the discussion of this loan versus the other loans. When it was created in the 1980's, not in the 1930's, it was tied to the actual price of the product. All of the other loan programs were tied to artificial…

I rise basically to support the Dole amendment. I rise to urge that we pass this bill. There will be changes. There should be changes. There should be great debates. There are differences of view. But those things can, indeed, be resolved…

I do have to compliment the minority. I thought perhaps they were not learning to become the minority quite as quickly as we had hoped they would. But what we have just heard on the part of the minority is an absolute denouncement of the…

So, on a conservative estimate of $15 to $20 billion, but the other side of that coin, I would tell the gentleman, is that actions by this Government in regard to people who hold property put a burden on those private sector individuals to…

I understand. This is the basis of what we are talking about. Of course, the Senator says leave it as it is. Others say we need to change it. That is what it is, whether we change or whether we do not. Many people think that there needs to…

I think there is a system in which the President can move. But the President then comes to the Congress for either a declaration or for the money, or he, as he is doing now, comes for a supplemental budget. The Congress has to be involved…

Where does the President get the money, if the majority of the Congress does not agree?

That is what I am suggesting; that is, that is the role of Congress, and I think it is a legitimate role and one that is not unusual, one that I have perceived has been done for a number of years.

I have, I guess--and I do not suggest I know the answers--but I have a good deal of confidence. What does it say? It says, ``* * * this article may be waived for any fiscal year in which the United States is engaged in military conflict…

Nor was I. I guess further I would say, I am not sure I am confounded by the Congress each year approving this. I do not think that is an unusual kind of thing. Do you not think the Congress represents the people----

Senator, I am not as familiar as you are with the process, but it seems to me that now there has to be approval, there has to be approval annually for the budget, there has to be approval for the President's move in terms of military…

I think that is the question that most Americans ask of their Government: Can we continue to spend more than we take in? Is it morally wrong to spend more than we take in, to transfer that debt to someone in the future? I think Americans…

Because the last rollcall vote was 416 to 1, and I fail to understand where the gentleman differentiates on a 416-to-1 rollcall vote.

Mr. Speaker, we began this process on January 4 and we moved the legislation to the Senate. We are considering today, on January 17, Senate bill 2, the Senate version of this legislation. There will be no conference committee. This…

That might be part of the problem. It is difficult to hold an organizing meeting of the committee when the members of the committee have not been named.