If a guidance is promulgated by any entity and, fairly quickly, industry, businesses, whoever it may be, States--contacts you and say, this has above $100 million of cost, and they can show you pretty quickly how and why, is there a…

Because there are guidance documents that are going out that are not coming through OIRA, do you have a concern that there may be some guidances being promulgated and put out there that are economically significant that might bypass the…

they just want their own government to be responsive.

I do not want any kid of any faith, of any background, of any--whoever it may be, to have an unsafe environment.

What is the standard of what the agency should send to you for review?

I completely agree with that. That is entirely reasonable to say: It is an expectation that every student is able to be at school in a safe environment for that student, free of bullying and the threats of all those things, and here are…

We do want this just to work. There are a lot of jobs, there are a lot of businesses that are on the line.

Only on interpretive.

Do you have the ability to be able to force a pause?

How many non-for-profits are there out there in America?

These have very serious consequences both to businesses, individuals, taxpayers--lots of litigation both for the Federal Government and us.

In fact, 85 Senators supported that, overwhelming supported in the House, affirmed by the President.

Every small business employer is right now hiring a consultant to be able to come help explain this to them because they know what they have and they do not know what is coming.

I could introduce you to a lot of university presidents that do not agree with that statement and a tremendous number of law professors across the country that do not agree with that statement.

What is a regulation? What is a guidance? Which one do I follow? Which one do I not follow?

But then who is sorting out the conflicting guidances that may come out or the conflicting deadlines that may come out from multiple entities because they do not know someone else is doing this unless you flag them to it.

I currently have two lawsuits against my university right now because we chose to use preponderance of evidence instead of clear and convincing.

I am going to open up the microphone just for an open conversation here.

OK, can I jump in here as well, just based on what you were saying on that, because what Senator Heitkamp is saying is the crux of the issue.

So that is not a concern to you that that would come out?

This is not a level playing field where an individual can just, as it has been argued: Well, it is not legally binding.

That has been longstanding policy that individuals can both have a faith and live their faith, especially for a student on a campus.

Are you confident that OIRA sees all the agency guidance documents that could potentially be significant?

It seems to be a pretty straightforward, plain reading that all of us supported, allowing more local control in some of the decisions.

So, basically you are giving donors to non-for-profits 25 weeks to donate more so that they can stay open.