James Lankford

You might want to check on some of the regulations coming down in the coal industry then because that has been a pretty rapid acceleration, some of the call issues and the number of jobs that have been lost on that one.

But in a 20-year window, I would just say almost always the people that are paying the capital up-front are going to lose.

I have a company in Oklahoma that did not turn in their form to say they do not have any conflict minerals.

Right. But there is a lot of authority there with the Executive Branch is where you have the ability to be able to have that dialogue where with the independent agencies it is only if they choose to come in and participate, and hopefully…

OIRA has a responsibility to be able to work with the agencies to say, This regulation that you are proposing has an effect or is connected to another regulation in another agency or one that they are planning.

Somehow we have to be able to balance that out, and if there is a need for additional authority or responsibility, we have discussed 12866

Do you feel like you have the authority to be able to step into an agency and say, This is really important, this has to be done, or do you feel like that needs to be someone else or it is just really the agency that is going to make that…

Is the standard then for the review of a rule, if they get a lot of complaints or a lot of praise?

If there is not coordination, how do we get that if they are not included in this conversation with OIRA?

The challenge of this--and I understand that budgets are tight on it and so it is difficult for agencies to prioritize their budgeting to go do a retrospective review

What would you expect that they would do? What percentage or number that you would expect that they would do on a regular basis or is there a certain age to look at it and say, This rule is 30 years old and maybe it needs to be reevaluated?

How did you pick the four out of 676 rules that are out there?

How do you ensure agencies are periodically doing a retrospective review that is thorough and is rigorous?

It is always nice to start a hearing on government efficiency 30 minutes late.

There are 566 tribes nationwide, and there are some success stories and some places to be able to replicate these things.

In my State of Oklahoma, the Sac and Fox Nation runs a juvenile program.

The challenge here is the Department of Interior is managing both juvenile justice and criminal justice in Indian Country, educational issues, health care issues, mineral rights issues, and water issues.

If we could somehow figure out how to do something close to comprehensive immigration reform, we would save hundreds of billions of dollars and our GDP would grow, as well.

I do not mind paying taxes, I just do not want you to waste my money.

One-point-eight million new jobs created and GDP to grow by 1.5 percent a year annually and that is worth doing, and it is also worth paying for, as well.

It does require a legislative fix.

That would be very helpful not only for the State, but for the Nation as well.

Yes. Right. Yes, that part I understand.

Okay. So I'm really talking the step before that then, and that's where you're not talking about now, that social media side of that.

We've got to have some kind of balance in the conversation.