We need some help understanding that because we're trying to look back at the law.

But the perverse incentive here is come here illegally. Claim asylum. And then guess what? You are going to get free education, free healthcare, and you are going to apply and, most likely, odds are you are going to get a work permit.

Will the gentleman yield? When I went to the Eloy detention facility, when I was down on the border, you have two categories of how you recognize them--OTMs, other than Mexicans, and Mexicans.

I advocate for more legal immigration. I want to fix legal immigration. It is not working.

If hundreds of thousands of people who would just ignore the law, they ignore the judge, they are supposed to be deported, they thumb their nose at us, and they just continue on here. That is the problem.

what is unconscionable, what we cannot stand for are people that abuse the system.

I will be brief. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

We need metrics. Metrics that we can work on the same pages.

This is a problem, and it is an abuse, and I am glad we are addressing it.

the integrity of our immigration system is compromised, and potential threats to our communities and national security are able to legally live and work here.

I think that is a crisis. I think that is a huge problem.