if we are going to sanction people for their belief and their sort of nationalist version of the world, then we will not have any discussion between people or any legislative exchange.

I do not think hardly taking off sanctions on a member of the Duma is going to be traded for the end of the war.

That would be about 90 percent of the people of Russia.

That would be about 90 percent of the people of Russia.

I think it makes it very much less likely.

I think it makes it very much less likely.

if we are going to sanction people for their belief and their sort of nationalist version of the world, then we will not have any discussion between people or any legislative exchange.

I am talking about very small, incremental removal of sanctions on legislative members in exchange for them doing the same.

I do not think hardly taking off sanctions on a member of the Duma is going to be traded for the end of the war.

Let us drag people to The Hague. Let us have some prosecutions. Would Putin be one of those targets?

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