Listen to this. In the community health center, they pay according to a sliding scale. For the insurance they would pay on their own, unless they were low income, and then they have vouchers to help subsidize the cost. So we provide…

People have choices of what plan they buy. My reform legislation guarantees that choice in the public and private sector.

Small businesses today have doubled the cost of health insurance since 1985. Smaller businesses today spend 35 percent more than the larger firms for health care.

I will give you the insurance. The Republican side introduced the first bill that would have exploded the infrastructure to guarantee all 37 million of those uninsured access to our good community health systems, and, in addition, we…

No, three things do. There are lots of things about holding costs down. First of all, the cost driver is the increased ability to diagnose and treat illness. We know a lot more about diagnosing. We can do a lot more tests and treatment. I…

We gave them the right to choose it. And half the managed care plans provide mammogram reimbursement for women of all ages.

You want young people to pay higher premiums because what you're saying, this is an important element of the plan. You support community rating. I supported tests of community rating. Community rating says young people have to pay higher…

We have been devastated by a recession. Our small businesses need subsidies if they are going to have to provide better benefits. The President's bill will check them out of the subsidy plan, and you support that bill.

I'm delighted to answer that question. In fact only a Democrat could possibly read that statement of mine and assume that I wanted government to set those premiums on that basis. Absolutely I don't want government to set the premiums. I…

The President's plan recognizes that small businesses are going to have a tough time paying the premiums and offer subsidies. How does the gentlelady from Connecticut rationalize supporting a plan that will not offer subsidies to…

Which means in fact that when you can provide an opportunity for those businesses, who in fact now are subsidizing those businesses that are not covering their employees, you are going to provide these businesses and these employers with…

The difference between you and me is I wouldn't dictate it. I would allow companies to say, ``You participate as Steel Case did. You participate in exercise class once a week, and you get lower rates before that''---- Ms. DeLAURO. So we'll…