This is as -- I can't think of a worse undermining at a president, at a time when he's sitting with a foreign leader who has nuclear weapons.

Well, I guess the point I was trying to make to Carl is the President doesn't tell the truth about a lot of things fairly consistently.

If you declare emergency, then that's a whole different story.

I think actually, the Democrats being in control gave the president actually more leverage.

One of the issues that the president brought that got bipartisan applause... I'm trying to actually come up with some ideas that we can even recommend to the Congress on paid parental leave.

Well, at least he has some Democrats because most of them boycotted in the past. So I give them credit for at least showing up for this one.

I think the president's going to go out there and deliver a speech that you know the country is actually doing pretty well.

I think there is a compromise that will include some element of DACA, some element of these TPA folks.

You were governor. When you ran on something and you made a central point.

I would agree that it's a political problem.

He is willing to concede to the other team's wishes in order to try to get a deal.

If the idea from Nancy Pelosi and her side is, we're not going to give him anything that gives him any quarter, then we're going to be back shut down or we're going to have an emergency declaration.