Now, he is going to have to compete not just with Trump, but with Scott, with others, Hutchinson, others who are going for that same constituency.

Mike Pence is in a fix because, for three years and 11 months or whatever it is was, he was loyal on the verge of being obsequious.

This is what a good faith compromise looks like in divided government.

Yes, there's no doubt about it. Look, we're a deeply divided country and Donald Trump is one of the reasons we're a divided country and that's central to his politics.

Donald Trump is a very vulnerable nominee at the Republican Party.

The things that I can't control, you know, the economy, and whether we see the recession that some have predicted but hasn't arrived would be one.

You know, last year, we passed a relatively modest gun control or gun safety law out of the United States Congress after Uvalde, and still Republicans in the House led by Kevin McCarthy moved against it.

I still don't understand exactly why weapons that he uses in war are ones that people should casually have on their own.

I think that when you look at his legislative accomplishments, when you look at the fact that he purged the Oval Office of Trump and restored some sense of normalcy and decency to it and calm, I think those are all strengths for Joe Biden.

I think he is a guy who Joe Biden feels he can beat, and I think Joe Biden feels that if Donald Trump doesn't get the nomination, that he'll tear your party down.

I would be shocked if he didn't. I mean, that's an issue that he -- where he has a huge majority in the country who supports some form of abortion rights.

I think it's a political mistake for McCarthy and the Republicans to go down this road.

Well, the early signs are not good, Anderson. I mean, look, if you are willing to subvert the Constitution and vote to overturn election results based on lies, based on evidence that is fraudulent, are you really going to sit in judgment…

I think they saw what happened, in 2011, where we went right up to the brink. There were significant givebacks made, and they were painful and disruptive. And I don't think they want to say, 'We're going to reward this behavior' because…

But it's interesting that you raised this point, because one of the people, who's now urging Republicans, to hang tough, and use it as leverage, to reverse everything Democrats did, in the last two years, is Donald Trump, who added $8…

There's no doubt, look, part of governing is there's going to be give- and-take, on issues, like spending, particularly in a divided Congress. But the question is whether you should use the debt ceiling, and the threat of essentially…

I think it makes it easier for Republicans to do what they want to do, which is to create a sense, I think, a false sense of equivalency, with what happened with Trump.

It has made the situation more complicated politically.

I think if you speak to Republicans in Congress and out of Congress, privately, there's a lot more concern about the leverage that these Freedom Caucus representatives have shown here, and the price that Kevin McCarthy had to pay to win…

I think Kevin McCarthy stands a very good chance of getting run out of the Speakership.

This was a vote against the election deniers, against Trumpism, and against General extremism.

If this remains the face of the GOP in 2024, we will get pummeled in the presidential and congressional elections. We would have won more seats in 2022, but too many feared the extremes in the GOP, even before this.

This was winning ugly. This was not what they planned. This was a mess.

I think if the group that drove this whole deal this week become prominent figures in the next two years, that a lot of those moderate or more moderate Republican, Senate right Republicans, particularly in closer swing districts, contested…

I think that this is -- if in fact, the most rabid voices in that caucus are leading the charge here and they go overboard, this is precisely what people feared when they voted last November and why Kevin McCarthy is struggling now because…