I agree that there is an unknown factor on the rising cost of food that we're not sure about. Will the gentleman also agree with me, though--and we've had a very spirited debate, which I know my friend---- Mr. McGOVERN. But it's not an…

And that is substantial. But let me say this, the numbers that we're operating on, 2010, there were 9.2 million participants. This year, it's 8.9. Next year, the projection is less than that because 450,000 people less are on it. The base…

Let me reclaim the time, because I wanted to continue the discussion. One of the things that perhaps we could do a better job at is not only explaining to people where these programs are but also coordinating the actual program. Now, the…

Then let me reclaim the time, because I'm trying to have an adult conversation, and I clarified what ``ignorant'' means, and if you don't know about a program, then you're ignorant about its existence. Mr. McGOVERN. If the gentleman will…

First of all, I think it would be real interesting, my friend from Massachusetts, and I mentioned this to you yesterday. I think we would both enjoy to see what the results would be if we googled our hearing and put in the word ``hunger''…

I move to strike the last word. The CHAIR. The gentleman from Georgia is recognized for 5 minutes.

The participation in WIC in 2010 was $9.2 million. Today it's about $8.8 million. This bill, because the level has dropped and is dropping, is at a level of $8.3 million, but can go over $9 million with the contingency. So I believe that…

I have no further requests for time, I move passage of the bill, and I yield back the balance of my time. The CHAIR. All time for general debate has expired. Pursuant to the rule, the bill shall be considered read for amendment under the…

I want to comment on that. But that's exactly what we're doing. Ms. DeLAURO. But the----

I just wanted to say that we actually have had one more speaker show up. It sounds like you are closing. You might want to reserve some time.

I yield myself such time as I may consume. I want to go back over this food situation. I and the gentleman from California, the ranking member, have had 11 hearings on this. We've had 11 hearings on the Agriculture bill, not on feeding…

I yield myself such time as I may consume. Madam Chair, I wanted to respond to the discussion of the CFTC. It's very interesting to me that there are those Members of Congress who believe that bureaucrats control the price of oil. While…