Jay Obernolte

Focusing on merely containment is probably not the right thing to do.

I think we can all agree that the government's response hasn't been perfect.

Public health decisions aren't based on medical factors alone--they must take into account other factors including social, economic, or other risks.

This is not something that's over and done with. It's something that we're going to be dealing with for many years.

I actually think that the government and government action throughout the health crisis has greatly contributed to the rise of the anti-vax movement.

we need to be cognizant of behavioral science when we're making decisions about how to increase vaccine adoption.

Americans were told to 'trust the science' but the science wasn't being fully and clearly communicated.

we need to invest in primary care and allow people to have that place to get nuanced information.

We would hope that this would be the last pandemic the world experiences, but history shows that it's probably not going to be.

I'm fascinated by this discussion about the data necessary to make good decisions in the future.

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So the question here before the panel today is how do we balance these two ideas that are in tension?

But at the same time, the culture of openness and transparency in research that we've built here in the United States also opens us up to being manipulated by malign foreign influences.

It's been a little over 3 years since the House last held a hearing on this topic.

the big goal here is to try and figure out how to stop the spread of misinformation.

I know Congressman Perlmutter was skeptical about that.

Combatting that spread is something that has been a societal problem for hundreds of years now, but it's exacerbated by the fact that information now spreads so easily.

So no one can deny that this effort to combat the spread of misinformation has severely hampered our ability to identify the origins of COVID.

I think, definitely, that they're going to need a seat at the table.

We have to find this middle ground, this balance in between the two, and I'm confident that we can.