Jay Obernolte actually said...

"It is vital that publishers and universities remain diligent in preventing these fraudulent publications, and that there are consequences for engaging in this bad behavior."

"I think the greater awareness that we have not only this is a problem but the--of the need to make severe penalties apparent for those who engage in destructive behavior like this, I think that's goin..."

"I think that trying to focus on eliminating all fraudulent papers is a fool's errand"

"I hope today's hearing will be a productive discussion that will help us learn ways to improve biometric technologies for the future."