Jay Obernolte actually said...

"This is not something that's over and done with. It's something that we're going to be dealing with for many years."

"We can't expect zero transmission, so we need commonsense policies that not only protect the most vulnerable."

"But at the same time, the culture of openness and transparency in research that we've built here in the United States also opens us up to being manipulated by malign foreign influences."

"So the question here before the panel today is how do we balance these two ideas that are in tension?"