So when do you make that decision as to whether or not you are at that attrition level that you had anticipated?

I appreciate your statement and your commitment to really work to provide a flat budget under these very difficult times.

So tell me how, if you were to fill these positions, we would not be getting closer to that management point that we seem to discuss a lot around here about how we work to reduce that overtime.

I am just looking at it. I am thinking, okay, bulk fuel, yes; light fixtures, yes.

I am hesitant, while we are in the midst of a very expensive radio modernization project, which again I agree we have got to do, that we be taking on other initiatives that may be nice but not necessary.

But I think this is a very important part of the conversation, and we would like to be working very closely with you on that.

we are looking for ways to demonstrate leadership by ensuring that our own budgets are tightened and trying to reduce those costs.

I appreciate the responses that you gave to the Senator from Arkansas about the radio modernization project.

Well, I guess I want to understand more about the prioritization...

Back when we had the fiscal year 2010 legislative branch conference report, we included some language in that that encouraged the Open World Leadership Center to expand its effort to raise private funding in order to reduce requirements…

But you do anticipate--I am assuming you have done some kind of a cost analysis...

But even if we were to just look at this as a 1-year instead of a multiyear request, as you have, the request from the Secretary's office is still an increase.

I would like to know from a security perspective what the must-haves are.

You don't think we're going to see any retraction on----

Even if you were not doing the multiyear funding, your numbers still do not add up.

I think this is a very important part of the conversation, and we would like to be working very closely with you on that.

I am disappointed that this subcommittee has once again been presented with a fairly large budget increase request in fiscal year 2011.

Should we, in your opinion?

I see. Okay, I understand that. Thank you.

So we have got the technologies now, but the technologies tomorrow may be changing is what you are saying.

So do you actually spend over $100,000 a year moving statues?

Well, if you could get that information and kind of lay that out, that would be helpful.

Well, as you point out, this is just kind of the beginning of the acquisition of the social networking media. And it will be a challenge.

It is your intention, though, to get a vendor who will accept that Verizon plan.

I think that is an important consideration for us.