There are three of us, not two.

security is our primary focus, right.

In the private sector, if something goes awry, the CEO says, pull the plug, we're going to move on, we'll try something different.

Because that was part of the problem FITARA was trying to address, that we had these long multi-year, multi-billion-dollar systems integration projects, and nobody felt empowered to pull the plug if the milestones weren't being met.

none of that is particularly appealing to young people on the college campus to come work for the Federal Government.

Let me just say, Ms. Roat, I wrote that section of the bill, so I care about it, and I'm not going anywhere.

So, we are going to insist on a robust definition of data centers so that we continue the goal of consolidation to, A, effectuate savings that can then be used internally for reinvestment because they are one of the big sources of…

a C minus is not a great overall grade for--given your mission.

I would like to start by thanking you, Chairman Connolly, for your leadership not only in creating FITARA, but also your unprecedented follow-through with more than five years of consistent oversight which has included 10 scorecards.

I would just say a word of caution. When we began this category, there were agencies that claimed they had no high-risk projects, none.

The Federal IT community has benefited greatly from working with you and your bipartisan partners along the way, Representatives Issa, Hurd, Kelly, Meadows, and now Ranking Member Hice.

No CEO I know would keep the job.

There are at least a dozen that still use COBOL. Now, the only good news about that is I understand that the Chinese don't know how to hack into COBOL.

the breach may not have been huge but, you know, this committee had a hearing on your agency or including your agency several years ago, and what came out was surprisingly, although maybe not surprisingly, but the Department of Education…

The only reason, in theory, we've made the progress we've made is because we have stubbornly insisted on the metrics contained in the scorecard for five years.

OPM got, I think, a C, C minus overall grade.

Your leadership has meant a great deal and has served our country well.

What Dr. Eastman is propounding sounds reasonable except it would fly in the face of over 200 years of practice.

It says persons. It doesn't say citizens. It says persons.

This kind of nativism, this kind of bigotry, frankly, has no place in the carrying out of the census.

Mr. Barsa, that does not answer the question. That begs the question.

Well, I have been working with AID for over 40 years and I have never seen it peopled with individuals who have those kinds of records and I think it is a shameful moment for AID.

Dollars going overseas are an opportunity cost because those are dollars not being invested in America and that has been proved false for decades.

I would hope that we could get a revised budget that is much more realistic in light of the pandemic.

Yes, but now we are in a place where sustainment is the major problem.