He said at the very bottom what we called the hollow force of the 1970s, pilots were flying 15 sorties a month, about 20 hours. Today we are flying less hours, less sorties than we did in the 1970s.

All of the stakeholders agree.

It's always a good idea to look to someone else who is doing something better before you start making a lot of changes.

I'm looking forward to this.

We have the same problem with our military. That's right.

I think we all agree that that is necessary.

I think it is important just to get in the record because of this very distinguished panel that we are in a threatened position today in this country and times have changed from the past.

Yes, but of course, if you are in a period, as we have been, of starving the military, the first thing that goes is maintenance and then modernization because that is less visible out there.

I didn't know that anyone had a dog therapy program, so I've learned something here.

I disagreed back in the 1990s when the reverse was true.

Forward-stationed U.S. Forces are both a tangible demonstration of the U.S.'s will and ability to defend common interests abroad.

Would you recommend a 5-year term, like the FAA Administrator?