Frank Lautenberg actually said...

But, of course, Mr. Elwell, you have to look at what might be a doomsday projection and say, 'OK. What do we do if we don't close that gap?'

Thanks, Madam Chairman, for holding this hearing. It sounds like a bit of an anomaly to me.

Because one of the things that we see happening is that there are fee revenues being developed for different services--where do you want to ...

If I may, Madam Chairman, for a moment--are we seeing better progress in the new generation in other major countries and their systems?