Donald Norcross actually said...

Thank you, Chairman. And very humbling day when we go to review something like this.

There's a difference between an apprenticeship program, which is to become a journeyperson and skilled in that craft, versus continuing educ...

Why are you trying to fix a program that works better and has been instituted for over 100 years?

Thank you, chairman. This is something near and dear to my heart. I went to the other 4-year school, an apprenticeship.