Donald Norcross actually said...

Democracy takes time, and certainly we just went through some of that.

I like to refer to Reagan. We will trust, but we want to verify before we start doing this.

But what was the mechanism that didn't work to stop this further back before they went all the way through the submission phase?

we understand the dollars and cents, but the direction is the important one, that we are investing and we are now measuring that investment,...