Donald Norcross actually said...

So, 2 years ago, it was all about fifth gen. A year ago, we were reeducated to say we want fourth gen.

If you go back to the Cold War, we were generating most of the technology that found its way to the battlefield.

We wanted to make sure we had no reduction in our ability to bring on fifth generation into the Air Force.

The minimum sustaining rate is 18. We have orders in place for out to 25, we believe, were at those minimum sustaining rates.