04/07/2022
https://www.msnbc.com...
"your testimony was so courageous and so moving."
"If CVE becomes just more police, more surveillance, and more of that, it is not going to really help us deal with the core of the problem."
"And so, I see your point. And, I also appreciate that, in your testimony, you discussed how we, in the West, should be trying to discredit--or have Islamic voices discredit Daesh."
"We are looking at specific efforts that have been going on to activate lone wolves in the United States as well as cells in Belgium and France."