Yes, and I think Gene made such an excellent point, that not only do we see dollar returns, but we see returns in better services.

Nobody is perfect. We have to constantly be striving.

How do we change that attitude?

the first line of defense is cyber hygiene.

I just really believe that this collaboration and partnership between this Committee and particularly this Subcommittee and you guys talking back and forth, I hope you find that that is a useful use of your time.

I am very excited about what you are doing, and I hope you share with our staff all of those letters.

This type of oversight is critical and valuable.

It is just so frustrating because this is so penny-wise and pound-foolish, I mean, to not have agencies like yours fully funded.

But when people do not implement the recommendations, we are not only frustrating the purpose of government, but we are frustrating this opportunity for financial savings.

I think we are looking for models all across the Country that can be adopted in Indian Country to better protect Indian people.

when we don't see a priority being placed on victims and on protecting people, when that is the fundamental obligation of government, we are going to be a little disappointed.

We have no law enforcement presence. We have no cop on the beat.