Heidi Heitkamp actually said...

"I pledge to you to be a forceful advocate for your agencies that you look at reforming."

"I also believe, Dr. Pon, that you are the first line of defense when agencies say we need this quality of person."

"I think not just getting the people on board to do that, but going through what we are required to do and what people have recommended us to do, we needed to be hawkish on those management requirement..."

"That is kind of like saying, you know, lock the door after the thief went in your house."