Richard Burr actually said...

My answer would be, probably not. It would probably not be involved in research to the degree that they are.

the challenge is that the VA competes for these professionals in a marketplace where they are high in demand and short in supply.

Let me add to something that you said and that is that we might agree that it doesn't happen naturally within the VA and there is a progress...

it is imperative that the VA have the tools it needs to attract and to keep quality doctors and nurses.