Mark Meadows

And you've disciplined, you said either terminated or disciplined 30 people. Is that correct?

Having them resign and face the consequences--and not face the consequences is not appropriate, Ms. Schwartz.

Do you think the American people would have a problem with that?

So you do agree that we have some waste, fraud, and abuse with regards to time and attendance?

The American people don't understand this, Ms. Schwartz. What they've seen is they've seen 400-plus people that an IG says has not actually accounted for their time according to computer and other logouts.

What is it--you say it depends. Depends on what, on how you feel on that given day, or what does it depend on?

Is it a ridiculous request to ask a supervisor to have access to a work schedule for someone who works for them?

So we would assume that, because on those efficiencies, that we would have a greater output from the 1970s, wouldn't we?

If you did not change your goals and perspective since the 1970s... you've got a problem.

There is no logical conclusion that you could come to, other than someone is gaming the system.

What kind of message does that send to the good employees?

But you've fired no one.

So you would support their termination if they were falsifying records?

So now you can't have it both ways, Mr. Slifer.

You're making a lot of difficult decisions that will make a lot of people angry.

I want you to report back to this committee within 30 days the action plan that you're going to have to address that.

What we're willing to do is if you'll make the tough decisions, we'll ask the tough questions and hold people accountable.

I need you to come back to this body within 30 days. I'm going to give you the same time.

FTA's lack of authority has been a contributor, yes.

It's a systematic fault of all the people involved in that process.

How many more people have to die before we get you to act in the appropriate manner?

Thank you all for your interest in transparency, for your interest in this particular subject.

This is something we need to pursue. We need to make sure this bill gets done, gets passed, becomes law.

Prepare at least two questions that we can ask OMB, the IRS, and Department of Treasury when we have the follow-up hearing.

We would ask each of you to report to this committee, if you can, three recommendations on what you would like to see.