Jack Bergman actually said...

"Are you saying that outside the VA system there's not enough data, not enough standardization procedures that we can just take what's working in another hospital somewhere--are we reinventing the whee..."

"We want to make sure the veterans don't get infections because instruments aren't cleaned."

"When you have a veteran who's getting a procedure done today, and if they have to think that they're assuming risk--that's shameful."

"So then if you're the captain of that ship, if you will, you're the director of that medical center, and you know that to eliminate that infection rate because of the use of a dirty instrument is goin..."