We have taken kind of a passive approach. We have taken a technical approach. We have focused on making our defenses strong which you could call it a Maginot Line approach.

We need to think about things that directly apply to cybersecurity.

The bad news is the countries that don't like us, including Iran, Russia, and China, have probed our critical infrastructure and have looked for vulnerabilities and are prepared to turn it off if necessary.

I think we need to find ways to demonstrate to countries that we will not put up with this.

I would call it coercion.

When I first came to Congress almost 30 years ago, I served on the old Public Works and Transportation Committee.

I want to thank all of the witnesses for being here.

As we work to prevent overpayment, you have cautioned us about avoiding unintended consequences.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman, for holding this hearing this morning.

I think that would be very valuable. We have done some good things, but there are many issues that are unfinished.

You cannot get blood from a turnip.

I am honored to be here with my friends from the Georgia delegation, Senator Isakson and Senator Perdue.