I have watched a lot of debate in my life on television usually between Senatorial candidates. Sometimes the hyperbole gets pretty extreme. One phrase I have heard pretty often, ``You are shameless, you are shameless.'' I would never bring…

I was talking about the rules. I was talking about your love affair with really closed rules during the entire last Congress and now complaining that we only gave you eight amendments this time.

I never doubted the business community will benefit from this legislation. I have never said otherwise. But I also do not make the distinction between the common working man and woman and the consumer and corporate America that you do. I…

But it really cuts both ways, and I believe it started on the other side with our camaraderie with corporate America and the economic royalists and all that tone was set, that they were our friends and we were doing this because they were…

Well, I am going to resist it. I am going to say it may be the law, but it is not good morality, and its lousy policy, but it is the law, and we are sworn to uphold the law. But let us fight to reverse it.

we cannot protect people who violate the law, no matter what their motives are. I say, ``You may not do evil that good may result, and violence has to be stopped whether it's in front of abortion clinics or somewhere else.''

That is the law, though. That is the law unfortunately. The gentleman and I voted against it, but it is the law, and the gentleman and I are sworn to uphold the law.

I vilify the act of abortion, I vilify the fact that it occurs, bloodily occurs, against defenseless, unborn children, but I do not vilify people who engage in that--I pray for them.

Yes, but we are not promising them 100,000 policemen, which are not in the cards by anybody's computer. The gentleman knows that. Will you concede that?

If we are going to block grant money for prevention and for police, I want that money to go to you, the cities in this country, not somewhere else. You are the ones on the front lines. You are the people that have got to show results. And…

I would make one other point: It is not just we Democrats who say we should not be trusting the local politicians.

I am terribly sorry, but I just do not agree. I do not think they understand that their program is seed money and, after a few years, it evaporates, it disappears, and the local unit of government is left to absorb all of the coats. I do…

Well, the city council in Cincinnati thinks just the opposite. There are plenty of municipalities that understand that this is illusory, that in the first year, 25 percent of the cost is going to have to be assumed by the local units of…

I mean no disrespect, but there is an incredible arrogance; I suppose it is an unconscious arrogance; in the position that Washington knows best. Yes, there is a police program in place. That is the problem. It is their program instead of…

I would accept that as gospel if you would accept the other things he says as gospel.

Whenever there is a threat to public safety, if it is in the lobby of a church, if it is around an abortion clinic, if it is in my home, I want law enforcement to be there to protect innocent people.

if it were not so tragic, it would be amusing. The wordsmiths on the other side use euphemisms like reproductive rights when they are talking about abortion. Why do they not call it abortion? Let us be intellectually honest. Or is there…

Mr. Chairman, I want to speak very much in support of this essential amendment. There is an anomaly where you have a high crime rate city that is within the confines of a county and a shared responsibility for the administration of…

I just want to say the reason the gentlewoman's subsequent amendment is flawed is it continues to erode the notion of block grants, which is that the call for where these policemen should go and with what equipment shall be made by the…

I hope the gentleman knows I supported LEAA. I voted for it. I had some concerns and they were good concerns because the LEAA was mismanaged. We correct that in our bill, but I supported LEAA. Did the gentleman know that? I do not think he…

Only if in their judgment the public safety is endangered. Surely the gentleman does not want the public safety endangered by any group that is picketing.

The gentleman knows how I feel about abortion and am very much opposed to killing unborn children. But I suggest to the gentleman that under the block grant concept wherever the public safety is at risk, and this is in the judgment of the…

Mr. Chairman, if the States were doing everything right, we would not have all this furor about truth-in-sentencing. The truth of the matter is, 10 years does not mean 10 years; 15 years does not mean 15 years. The public thinks it does…

Coerce? Reclaiming my time, coerce is not the same as incentive. And we are providing incentives for them to have--does the gentleman not agree that sentencing someone to 10 years and they get out in 3 is a fraud?

I must say, it is an issue that has troubled me. I accumulate them, and there is a concern, because they are acquired by flying with Government-paid airfare. However, in 20 years here, I have noticed that this job, this work, creates an…