if you are losing $79 million on food service with a captive audience 3 years ago, and that increases to $84.5 million this past year, you have a problem.

Amtrak's food and beverage service has incurred a direct operating loss of over $526 million in the last 6 years.

I am a fiscal conservative. You can move more people for less. As far as the environment, energy, it is absolute winner.

I come from a business background. If this is a corporation which is subsidized heavily by public support, the very least they can do is have a business plan, and that plan should be flexible.

I was very pleased preceding this hearing, and I asked the question before, we went to a nine-member board and seven members of the board had been appointed.

I think Mr. Connolly said maybe we need to clean house and start over.

I think in terms of cleaning house on the board, it has pretty well been taken care of because almost all the members are new members.

The sort of abuses that have occurred must stop and must stop immediately.

Mr. Connolly actually made a pretty good case of making this more of a Virginia-centered Authority.

So we hope we can--as Mr. Connolly also said, we have to restore public faith and trust in this important responsibility.

We want people held accountable. We want the board to act, and clean up the mess and, again, the failure that is so embarrassing here.

I'm pleased to yield 6 minutes at this point to the gentleman from Wisconsin (Mr. Petri), who chairs the Aviation Subcommittee in the House.