Duncan Hunter: “I'm familiar with the report you provided to the Defense Committees on the Automated Test and Retest (ATRT) program.”

So what do you think, Master Chief?

I would like to differentiate, too, between super high-tech stuff that is in its infancy stages and is nascent--and a floating surfboard that can sense if there is oil in the water that has been around for 5 years or longer.

I think you have got some catching up to do.

Yes, it is just short of $5 billion a year.