Doug LaMalfa: “Those folks were pleading for help, for long-term fire suppression.”

Farmers like the current conservation programs that are out there, EQIP and the others, but this new one here is going to require them to jump through hoops in order to maybe be competitive or not.

I always tell people, don't do what California does, it will just cost you.

What we are looking at is the dam removal project so far is a disaster.

I hope to work with her some more on that.