Doug LaMalfa: “Well, you need to give people an outlet, and they find that there is no outlet.”

So, to replace 65 percent of the locomotives by 2030, no way, right?

But that costs a lot of money to the taxpayers. We always say Government needs to do something. It is the taxpayers that pays for all of this.

Last year, we were able to fill San Luis Reservoir 100 percent. This year, there was a vast amount, like 95 percent, of cut-down in running the pumps.

What we are looking at is the dam removal project so far is a disaster.