03/27/2012
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"What we have are two elements now that we seem to be seeing as being in some way intertwined in their activity to be mutually reinforcing."
"What we are talking about here now is there are criminals in every country, which we know, and there are criminal networks in every country."
"So those people who were involved in this kidnapping--and we are talking about--what level of kidnapping is taking place now?"
"Actually, you will find that as chairman I try to be as generous as I can."