Dana Rohrabacher actually said...

If the cattlemen don't make a profit, my kids are going to pay more for their hamburger.

And what we learned in California, sometimes people are so crazy and so fanatic about every--about endangered species and things such as tha...

Shouldn't that be--I mean, that should be left up to local people. Why are local people any more less sympathetic with these important issue...

Let me just--we have a cattlemen with us here, Mr. Chilton. Mr. Chilton, you are really not in the cattle business; you are in the moneymaki...