Dana Rohrabacher: “Well, thank you very much. This has been very fascinating for me to listen to your tales of woe, and they are tales of…”

I mean, Ukraine, we've spent $1 billion in Ukraine, I guess, in the last couple years and everybody acknowledges the level of corruption there is just dramatic.

I remember, like, one of the things when I first got here was the Clinton administration's insistence on spending what was the equivalent of $50 million providing fuel for North Korea, and it had just the opposite impact.

Under normal circumstances this problem would be addressed by local government.

Maybe the people of these countries--for example, Hungary or elsewhere, when they see us getting involved with trying to push various policies and issues with the NGOs, et cetera, in their country, maybe they see it as the same kind of…