Dana Rohrabacher: “How much natural gas is used to produce fertilizer? Do you know? We don't.”

The way I handle this as chairman I usually let people finish their train of thought.

I mean, Ukraine, we've spent $1 billion in Ukraine, I guess, in the last couple years and everybody acknowledges the level of corruption there is just dramatic.

Under normal circumstances this problem would be addressed by local government.

Maybe the people of these countries--for example, Hungary or elsewhere, when they see us getting involved with trying to push various policies and issues with the NGOs, et cetera, in their country, maybe they see it as the same kind of…