There are very few things we can do, it seems to me, as legislators, that could be so beneficial as turning to cellulosic fuel.

So would you support legislation that would take us further in the direction of commercial production of cellulosic ethanol?

For my State of California, I thank you for that.

Well, I'm encouraged that you support the FCC's principles. I just don't know why you wouldn't want them to have the authority to address the problem.

No, they don't.

Well, I thank you, because I worry about the House language, and I think this is an important debate.

Listen, I heard about that in California from Enron, and I know what happened, 'Leave us alone, prices will go down,' and we're $11 billion poorer.

Depends on the issue.

I think we've got to get past that.

I think I agree with you.

I think the struggle is not over the definition of 'nondiscrimination.'

I would say we need to bring competition into every American community.