Senator Boxer. Now, $40 billion a year from the Federal Government, that is 4 months in Iraq.

How we come up with $225 billion a year by simply allocating our resources more efficiently, encouraging States to impose fees such as tolls and congestion pricing, it is just not going to happen.

We need to make sure we can build the roads, but do it right, make sure that we have environmental protections.

It really disturbs me to think that Government would know... if you want to know how many people are using a road at a certain time of day, you just set those little strips.

Senator Boxer. The fact is, we are doing 40 percent. And the States and the cities and everybody else, and the counties, are doing the rest.

I just think it is so much of a false--I know you believe what you are saying--but it is a false expectation for the people to believe that we can meet our needs as a great and growing and strong Nation.

I don't know why we have to come up with this thing about spying on people and putting GPSs in their cars.

I am going to ask if you would be willing to go back and give me responsive, complete and truthful answers.

That is why I thought the Commission, and that Commission, with Republicans and Democrats and Independents, and they came together and said, we need to have a new sources of funding based on vehicle miles traveled.

I am all for streamlining, as long as we keep protections in there.

It is not about me. It is about your constituents.

I think your point about a connection between the environment and our infrastructure is key.