Well, that's one of the things that SBA is talking about, trying to make that information more available, more accessible.

It is critically important that... the DOD and VA are already providing education assistance to our service members and veterans.

I have a couple of them here in the room with me right now. But one thing I've noticed is that when you hire a veteran, they want to hire other veterans.

But are you seeing numbers increase out there? Are you seeing more and more people participate?

I actually met with a business owner earlier today, and he said he hires veterans.

We need to think about that. All the veterans know this, but in the world of the military, there's the active component, the active duty folks, and then there's the reserve component, which is Guard and Reserve.

Senator Pryor has really encouraged us to take a good hard look at that

Senator Landrieu has been a tremendous leader on that

I hire vets.

access to capital is also something that's absolutely critical

one of the initiatives that you're trying to set aside a savings plan for the veterans.