Mike Johanns: “I would hate to get at the end of this and find out that we've only made it more complicated, not less complicated.”

It is Congress who will create the next housing finance system and that the next housing finance system is not the conservatorship of the FHFA.

I think it would be beneficial.

Just a word or two to both leaders. Thank you so much for your kind words. I also want to say thank you for mentioning my wife Stephanie. This has been a remarkable partnership for a lot of years, and I could not have done what I did…

I just hope we are not over-engineering something here.