Mike Johanns: “I see conflict as somewhat of a positive thing.”

But to anyone who might be listening in who is wondering if is it time to give up, it is not.

I think it would be beneficial.

I will continue to push this legislation, but many of its provisions are things that HUD has the flexibility to implement on its own.

It is Congress who will create the next housing finance system and that the next housing finance system is not the conservatorship of the FHFA.