Mike Johanns actually said...

I just walk out of the hearing like I have been given an explanation so I will quiet down and let you go back to work, yet I do not see the ...

I hope is the first of many, many hearings.

I would agree with Senator Johanns, who indicated, you know, what the heck is going on, when he looks at this and considers the budgets that...

It is systemic. It is cultural. It is people have just adopted this mode of operation as the way of doing business.