Mike Johanns: “And one of the things President Washington warned the very young Nation about was debt and the calamity that that can…”

Somehow we have got to figure out a better way, because at the most important time in this person's life, when they are crying out for help, it should be a simple, straight-forward pathway to access that help.

Could you do that and make it crystal clear to the public that you confirm that the role of conservator... is to be the bridge builder?

But to anyone who might be listening in who is wondering if is it time to give up, it is not.

I think it would be beneficial.