Mike Johanns: “I have not liked that idea from the beginning. It would seem to me to be just an enormous conflict of interest.”

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Somehow we have got to figure out a better way, because at the most important time in this person's life, when they are crying out for help, it should be a simple, straight-forward pathway to access that help.

Just a word or two to both leaders. Thank you so much for your kind words. I also want to say thank you for mentioning my wife Stephanie. This has been a remarkable partnership for a lot of years, and I could not have done what I did…

Our job is to try to figure out how we deal with that puzzle, that very difficult issue of how to provide services to people who need it.