Yes, it is a tough landscape out there. I think we all appreciate that.

Save $10 million. And if we have got a tough, cold winter, to have that in reserve.

I am in favor of the legislative branch serving as a model for the rest of the Government.

I have to ask about way finding.

Is that a correct statement, that the issue would be given higher priority, based on a risk assessment?

I do have to question whether applying a gold standard to the legislative branch is appropriate.

So I just want to make sure that we all understand that for one last percentage, so that we can say we absolutely, positively are not using coal, we are going to spend $10 million to retrofit this last boiler?

I just want to understand because $18.5 million is not unreasonable in terms of a technology request.

I just can't let a good thing drop here.

I am trying to understand exactly how much flexibility there is built into all of this.

I feel my job, as a legislator, now that that money is either out on the street or getting out there, we are charged with making sure that there is that level of accountability.

I know that the inspector general has recently reported that you didn't have adequate spending controls on travel.

You think that if we have got the smart technology, you don't need to have as many human beings behind it.

I think you really hit the nail on the head that much of it is a security concern.

I am then told to get to a clear 100 percent level of using natural gas year-round that we need an additional $10 million in the fiscal year 2010 budget to retrofit another boiler.

How are we going to ensure that we will have proper management of the procurement to ensure that once we identify what that cost is that we stay on budget and on time?

So it makes a difference.

Which seems counterintuitive.

Well, I would hope that we would agree that spending $7 million is not the prudent thing to do if we are going to do a whole building renovation in 2 years.

If your agency were to receive only half of the requested increase for fiscal year 2010, what would be the impact and what changes would you make to your budget?

The Denali Commission... has become a prime example of how Government should operate.

Let me ask one more question before I turn it back to my colleagues here, and this is on the civilian staffing.

What would happen if we were to set that standard within the legislative branch?

Well, I would agree with you. That is another area that we would like to be working together with you to make sure that we have got the resources to advance that science.

I also understand that there were problems with the payroll processing, the need to make sure that we have got timekeeping records that are adequate.