Yes, that, and I suppose are people who, once they have learned they can earn a living in a certain way, they would like to continue earning a living that way, especially if it is very lucrative.

There is widespread agreement among Republicans and Democrats that cartels should be vigorously pursued and severely punished.

As I understand it, the Department does not currently have in place a mechanism whereby a company's own compliance program can be taken into account when discussing settlement for illegal cartel activity.

I think the thought of going to jail is a pretty powerful deterrent absent having other authority.

I suspect that this happens a fair amount because they want to obtain a larger fine.

I do not necessarily hear you saying that there is a legitimate purpose for the practice. Do you think there is? Should it be abandoned altogether?

Do you think the extent to which you take it into account is adequate?

Do you think the procedures you have in place are adequate to address that?

Our bill would tighten statutory authorities governing surveillance, would increase oversight and accountability, and would ensure that Americans' constitutional rights under the Fourth Amendment are protected.

Leadership is about taking responsibility, not making excuses.

The sad reality for the Democrats... is they did nothing.

It is time we started requiring a little more sunlight in this fairly shadowy space.

If you give too much power to the Government with regard to domestic surveillance, eventually it will be abused.

Some scholars have written that judicial decisions in the 1970s have led NHTSA to effectively abandon rulemaking.

I appreciate all you folks testifying here today. It is very important to us.

If I could ask one more question, in your testimony you say that NHTSA prefers recalls to rulemaking.

I appreciate personally the work that you do, and I just want to compliment you for hanging in there and doing what you do.

This has been a very interesting hearing on what many would think would be a boring set of subjects.