It is difficult to follow those bipartisan comments of our subcommittee chairman, and I do agree with him. But I think I can follow our leader and say that he is right, this is what the Republicans would have tried to do if we had been in…

Do they have to sign a report ahead of time proving they are not doing a thing of this sort?

All right; I reclaim my time because I think my colleagues see the problem. No matter how good the intentions might be verbally, the problem is, if we adopt the Hancock amendment by itself, it has the effect of prohibiting school…

OK; let me further ask the gentleman another question, and I regret this is taking a lot of time, but the Reagan AIDS commission listed three recommendations regarding education on AIDS in the school system. One of them required States'…

So the gentleman does not believe then that, if this amendment is adopted, that AIDS education will in any way be limited?

I think a discussion can lead us to a consensus in this amendment that gets where you want to go that doesn't have the negative effect that I feel.

Let me give the gentleman some examples. It is very important that we understand what we are or are not doing here. Will counseling in school between a certified school counselor and a student on that student's struggle for personal…

Would the gentleman say under his amendment no school guidance counselor in America would be able to counsel a student, boy or girl, who came to them and said, ``I am really struggling with who I am''?

OK; question No. 3: What's the enforcement effect of your amendment? I mean we discussed this yesterday with the Doolittle amendment as well. Let's assume a school is found to have violated your amendment. What's the penalty?

I say to my colleagues, ``This is it. Either today you vote for education reform or you go back home and admit you're not really in support of it.'' There is not a Member among us who cannot come to the floor today, after the 6 years that…

I read this into the Record because I think it is important in this dialog that we have some understanding of what we mean by constitutionally protected school prayer, and I think it is important that we do so, that we do understand that…